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BT Infinity vs Virgin Media broadband

Monday, September 24th 2012 by Dominic James
Find out how BT Infinity and Virgin Media measure up as providers of fibre optic broadband. We’ll arm you with all the facts you need to make up your own mind, including download speeds, usage limits, traffic management and line rental.

Our guide pits two of the UK’s heavyweight fibre optic broadband providers against each other – BT Infinity and Virgin Media.

Both offer superfast downloads that are amongst the fastest the UK has ever seen, with high or unlimited usage limits, advanced wireless routers and the option to add other services.

By the end of this guide you should have all of the information you need to choose which of these broadband providers is the one for you.

  • BT Infinity vs Virgin Media broadband

    BT Infinity or Virgin Media broadband? Both offer fibre optic broadband packages in the UK, but which one’s better? Let us guide you through everything there is to consider when trying to work out which is the right provider for you, including coverage, download speeds, usage limits and and bundles to take some of the guesswork out of deciding which one to choose.

    Let’s begin with a breakdown of the two providers and their different fibre optic broadband services:

    ProviderBTVirgin Media
    Download SpeedsUp to 160MbUp to 120Mb
    Upload SpeedsUp to 20MbUp to 12Mb
    Usage OptionsCapped & unlimitedUnlimited
    Fair Usage PolicyNoYes
    Traffic ManagementYesYes
    Static IPBusiness onlyBusiness only
    Minimum Contract18 months18 months
    RouterHome Hub 3Super Hub
    Public Wi-FiUnlimitedLondon only
    Prices From£9 per month£4 per month

  • Broadband speeds

    Both BT Infinity and Virgin Media use fibre optic technology to deliver superfast download speeds. Broadband speeds from both provider should be at least 4x faster than you could get over the standard telephone line. In some areas fibre optic broadband speeds can be more than 50x faster than conventional broadband via a telephone line.

    It’s easy to get hung up on speeds when talking about broadband - but the fact is that most of us wouldn’t see much difference in performance between an up to 30Mbps and an up to 120Mbps service if all we do online is browse websites and watch Netflix.

    BT Infinity speeds

    BT offers three levels of Infinity service:

    • Option 1 - up to 38Mbps with 40GB usage
    • Option 2 - up to 76Mbps with unlimited usage
    • BT Infinity 160 - up to 160Mbps with unlimited usage

    BT uses traffic management at peak times to limit the speeds of certain activities, including P2P filesharing.

    Infinity 160Mb uses fibre optic cabling all the way to your home, which gives it speeds closer to the advertised than either Option 1 or 2. Ofcom has shown this package to have the UK’s highest upload speed, so it’s a good choice if you want to share a lot of data.

    Virgin Media speeds

    Virgin Media also offers three different speeds:

    • Up to 30Mbps
    • Up to 60Mbps
    • Up to 120Mbps

    In some areas 100Mbps customers have had a speed boost to up to 120Mbps.

    Virgin Media employs traffic management to restrict the speed of certain activities including filesharing at peak times. Any user that exceeds the fair usage figure off their package on any given day will have their connection speed throttled for the following five hours.

    Winner – Virgin Media

    Virgin Media is currently ahead on advertised speed in terms of providing the fastest broadband across the country. The main issue is the cable that connects your home to the cabinet, so Virgin Media customers and BT Infinity 160Mbps customers are most likely to get speeds closer to those advertised.

  • Usage restrictions

    Some ‘unlimited’ home broadband packages do actually have download restrictions, although the details are often buried deep in the small print.

    These restrictions often include a ‘fair usage policy’. This is a set amount of data that you can download each month, regardless of what the advertised limit might be. Fortunately monthly fair usage policies are becoming less common amongst broadband providers.

    Much more common amongst the various providers are traffic management activities. Also known as ‘traffic shaping’, this is a process whereby the download rate of some activities are reduced at peak times to stop the activities of a small number of customers reducing the overall speed of the network.

    BT Infinity

    The basic BT Infinity has a download limit of 40GB a month, and if you exceed this figure more than once you’ll be charged £5 per 5GB of additional usage. BT will email you when you’ve used 70% of your allowance to help you avoid this penalty.

    The other Infinity packages are unlimited, and not restricted by a fair usage policy. Traffic management is used to reduce the amount of bandwidth allocated to P2P file sharing activities during peak hours, which are 4pm - midnight on weekdays and 9am - midnight on Saturdays and Sundays.

    Virgin Media broadband

    Virgin Media packages are described as being ‘uncapped’ rather than unlimited. There isn’t a fair usage policy that restricts your monthly activities, but each package has a daily peak time fair usage limit which operate from 10am - 3pm and 4pm - 9pm for downloads and 3pm – 8pm for uploads.

    If you exceed the fair usage figure during any day’s peak periods your connection will be throttled for the following five hours, but as they’re set so high it’s unlikely that this would affect you, unless you download an usually large amount of data.

    For example, if you have the up to 60Mb service your fair usage figure for the period 10am - 3pm will be 10GB – which is equivalent to downloading more than a dozen standard definition movies which it’s unlikely that you’d ever one to do in a single five hour period.

    Virgin Media also emplys traffic management to slow down the speed of some applications including P2P file sharing from 5pm – midnight Monday to Friday and midday – midnight on Saturday and Sunday.

    Winner - BT Infinity

    While both providers limit certain activities at peak times BT Infinity 2 and 160Mb have fewer restrictions than any Virgin package. Bear in mind though that the basic BT Infinity option does have a strict 40GB limit and you’ll be charged at least £5 extra if your downloads exceed this figure more than once.

  • Availability

    We’d normally look at the issue of availability at the end of a guide like this, but when you're talking about fibre optic broadband it’s a key factor, and may turn out to be the single factor that most influences your decision. You can use our free postcode checker below to find out which fibre optic networks are available in your area.

    BT Infinity

    BT Infinity uses the BT Openreach network to deliver fibre optic broadband services to homes and businesses across the UK. This network can currently reach roughly 11 million UK homes, and that figure is set to increase significantly in the coming years.

    Virgin Media

    The Virgin Media network is well established, and is also being upgraded. In all, over half of UK homes can receive Virgin Media cable TV and fibre optic broadband at up to 30Mbps or better, and in February 2012 Virgin Media announced that it had beaten its own target to offer 100Mbps broadband to more than 10 million homes.

    Winner – Virgin Media

    As it stands, Virgin Media has the largest reach in terms of the number of UK consumers that it can deliver services to. However, the race is on to see who can connect the most homes in the coming years - so Virgin’s lead is by no means unassailable.

  • Line rental

    Traditionally broadband was carried exclusively over the telephone network, and in the minds of most consumers and providers alike they will always be inextricably linked.

    However, since the rise of fibre optic broadband and our increasing relince on mobile phones over our landlines the situation has changed dramatically – but it’s so far only Virgin Media who is passing the technological benefits on to consumers.

    BT Infinity

    To get BT Infinity you’ll need an active phone line and to pay BT line rental at £15.45 a month, which includes evening and weekend calls to UK landlines.

    With BT’s Line Rental Saver plan you can pay 12 months line rental in advance at a cost of £129, saving yourself £56.40 per year.

    Virgin Media

    You can get Virgin Media broadband without paying line rental at all. If you do take one you’ll get weekend calls as standard. Virgin line rental costs £14.99 a month, or £120 a year in advance – which works out £46.80 cheaper per year.

    Winner - Virgin Media

    Virgin Media has the cheaper monthly line rental of the two providers, and the Virgin Line Rental Saver option is again cheaper than the BT equivalent. Best of all there is no requirement to take a Virgin Media landline to get broadband if you don’t want one.

  • Wireless routers & public Wi-Fii

    These days we all expect more from our chosen broadband than just a basic internet access package that we can only connect a single computer to.

    Fortunately providers realise this and, for the most part, they’ll all provide a suitable wireless router when you sign up plus some other useful perks.

    BT Infinity

    To get BT Infinity you’ll need an Openreach modem and a BT Home Hub 3.0 wireless router. As a new customer you’ll be supplied with both, although you’ll be charged £6.95 for postage and packing. You’ll need two spare power sockets close to your master telephone socket to power your router and modem.

    The Home Hub uses a combination of B/G/N technology, and can support up to four wired and up to 10 wireless connections at a time. It uses 'Smart Wireless' technology to detect interference and automatically select an alternate channel with a better signal.

    Whichever BT Infinity package you choose you’ll get free and unlimited access to BT’s network of more than 4 million public Wi-Fi hotspots at hotels, restaurants and shopping centres.

    Virgin Media broadband

    Virgin Media supplies all broadband customers with a Super Hub, which uses ‘N’ wireless technology. The Super Hub is a combined fibre optic broadband modem and wireless router, so you’ll only need one power socket to run it.

    It’s capable of handling broadband speeds above 120Mbps and can support up to four wired and up to 20 wireless connections at a time. There is no P&P charge for the Super Hub.

    Unfortunately Virgin Media does not currently offer any public Wi-Fi usage with any broadband packages with the exception of at some London Underground stations. If this changes we will update this guide to let you know.

    Winner – BT Infinity

    If it was simply a case of comparing wireless routers the Virgin Media Super Hub is slightly more advanced than the BT Home Hub, as it can support a greater number of wireless devices and, as it’s a combined modem/router that only uses one power socket it’s also cheaper to run.

    However, it’s hard to imagine many families that would ever need to connect more than 10 devices to their home broadband at any one time so the Super Hub’s superiority in this sense shouldn’t be considered the defining factor.

    Perhaps more significantly Virgin Media has a limited public Wi-Fi programme, whereas BT gives you unlimited access to the UK’s largest – and given our increased reliance on our mobile devices this surely must give BT the edge.

  • Verdict - BT Infinity vs Virgin Media broadband

    BT Infinity and Virgin Media fibre optic broadband packages offer incredibly fast download speeds, a range of pricing options and virtually unlimited monthly downloads.

    If both are available in your area then the right provider for you will be determined by your needs and your budget, so you need to spend some time weighing up the pros and cons for yourself to work out which provider can deliver the service you need at the best possible price.

    In our opinion, BT Infinity is a good choice if you want unlimited public Wi-Fi access and inclusive evening & weekend calls as standard, while Virgin Media is best if you want the UK’s fastest downloads and no landline.

    What may turn out to be the deciding factor for you will be availability in your area, so you should check using our postcode checker which you will find below our comparison tool.

    Comparison tool

    Use our handy comparison tool to compare BT Infinity and Virgin Media broadband packages.

    • Broadband
      Max Download Speed76Mb
      Max Upload Speed19Mb
      Monthly UsageUnlimited
      Fair UsageYes
      Traffic ShapingNo
      Digital TV
      TV Channels-
      SD Channels-
      HD Channels-
      3D Channels-
      Radio Channels-
      Home Phone
      Daytime Calls9
      Evening CallsInclusive
      Weekend CallsInclusive
      Pricing
      Monthly Cost£22
      Upfront CostFree
      Contract Length18 months
      Line Rental p/m£15.45
      First Year Cost£503.40
      Lifetime Cost£764.10
    • Broadband
      Max Download Speed100Mb
      Max Upload Speed10Mb
      Monthly UsageUnlimited
      Fair UsageYes
      Traffic ShapingNo
      Digital TV
      TV Channels-
      SD Channels-
      HD Channels-
      3D Channels-
      Radio Channels-
      Home Phone
      Daytime Calls9.94
      Evening Calls9.94
      Weekend CallsInclusive
      Pricing
      Monthly Cost£19.75
      Upfront CostFree
      Contract Length18 months
      Line Rental p/m£14.99
      First Year Cost£460.38
      Lifetime Cost£712.32
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Comments (50)

HowardTheDuck
3rd October 2012
Virgin Media actually has a 200GB monthly download cap. Going over 200GB will throttle your connection for an unknown period of time (over a year so far for me, although I had no idea this was the cause of my bad connection as they don't tell you about it when you sign up, it was only when I constantly complained about my connection issues they told me.)

Being a gamer I can download 200GB a month quite easily on this 60MB/s package, games nowadays are bought online and can be 20GB+ in size - before game patches. Not to mention services like lovefilm, netflix, youtube, twitch ...I could go on and on. VM need to catch up with this digital age, the moment BT Infinity if available in my area I'm switching.
Andy Levoir
4th October 2012
Ive been with Virgin now for just over a year, initially just as a broadband customer and three weeks ago switched from Sky for the TV. My only problems so far was with the settings of the SuperHub where it would drop connection and restart all of the time, but I was able to fix this myself by going into the routers advanced settings. The TV is very good and are saving lots of money with the bundled TV & Broadband package over what I was paying by themselves.

Over the years I have been with many different Broadband providers, BT, Pipex & o2 amongst others and have always changed due to poor service in some shape or form, so from this point of view they all have their faults in some way or another.
Cable UK
4th October 2012
Many thanks for your comment HowardTheDuck,

We've been through the Virgin Media contract and Terms & Conditions with a fine-toothed comb and haven’t come across a monthly fair usage figure, although we are well aware of the daily peak-rate fair usage thresholds, traffic shaping and throttling.

Did Virgin Media explain your throttling in writing, or was it over the phone? Either way we would be very interested to know how you came across this figure of 200GB/month fair usage – as will our readers.

Again, many thanks for your comment. It’s certainly sparked a lot of debate in the office and we will try to get an answer from Virgin Media directly.
HowardTheDuck
4th October 2012
They told me about the 200GB download limit over the phone which did surprise me as, like you said, it's nowhere to be found in the terms and conditions.

If I know I need to download large files/games it's always late at night after midnight, otherwise I'd be throttled and any online game would be useless to try and play. So I thought my connection issues were due to over utilization on the network, however many of their support team assured me it wasn't, which I can believe as my brother who lives less than 5 minutes away isn't affected.

I wish I had told them to put it in writing when they told me. I wouldn't even mind the cap so much as long as they informed me, as now I just manage how much I download each month.
Aaron Parry
4th November 2012
Had virgin for a year now, I expect it to break more than work now and its unlimited and fibre optic so what the hell is wrong with it? I had sky which was great until there was two laptops and an xbox on and then it became very slow but still could be connected to, however on so called "super fast" fibre optic, when I just have one device on in the whole house, I can connect and then it will break or be so slow that there is no point in using the device at all. I wish sky had fibre optic because then i would have fast and reliable wifi with the simply set out tv because tivo that I have now is very awkward to use. Im am not a racist person by saying this but when I call up virgin to fx any problem I get through to a call cetntre in india which makes it so I can't understand what I have to do to fix the problem because of their accent but this happens for every provider so you can't win really...
Bob
6th November 2012
HowardTheduck.... BT consider 5 hours online gaming 'heavy usage'

I wish you luck with BT Infinity.
andy
3rd December 2012
I was with Virgin and could not even stream iplayer, and also streaming radio would rebuffer.
my brother has virgin adsl, and cmplained about iplayer buffering. They said put it on low quality.. this says it all!
went from Virgin fibre to sky adsl (6mb now) and 100% faster with my major lag issues gone for peak time gaming. Cannot wait for Sky Fibre, as i think they will be great.
I would not go for Virgin, even if it were free.
Tom
14th December 2012
Just thought I'd clear up incorrect info on here: BT do not consider 5 hours gaming as heavy usage; they only throttle P2P services, and BT up speed is up to 20mbit/s whilst Virgin Media's is 12mbit/s for the 120mbit service. CableUK you need to clarify some of your information on this page as it is incorrect.

Moved from Virgin to BT as a paltry 5GB download limit between 4pm and 9pm is stupid on a 60mbit speed; thats two Netflix films and I've hit my limit, been throttled by 50% and put on the slow man's pipe. Maybe Virgin need to upgrade their network instead of punish current customers.

@HowardTheDuck you'll also find that BT Infinity's ping and jitter ratings are much better on their VDSL counterparts to Virgin's offerings. I once got told by a Virgin Media technical advisor that my internet was slow to the point of not being able to stream (for which a minimum of 3mbit/s is required) due to it raining outside!
Cable.co.uk
17th December 2012
Hello Tom.

Many thanks for your comment.

We have been in touch with Virgin Media today to confirm the figures and you are indeed correct to say that the 120Mbps package has an upload speed of up to 12Mbps so we have updated this guide accordingly.

Thank you too for taking the the time to share your experiences of Virgin Media broadband with ourselves and @HowardTheDuck.
Steven
24th January 2013
Virgin does not have a 200GB monthly cap. They advertise an unlimited package and as per the new ruling in April 2012, this has to MEAN unlimited (the fair use policy is for abusive reasons such as server hosting)

I download over 1TB a month with my 100Mb VM connection and I haven't been capped or moaned at (and this has happened for about 7 months now) ... Just point out, I'm a graphics designer, not a torrent freak!
Cable.co.uk
25th January 2013
Hi Steve,

Thanks for letting us know about your experience with Virgin Media. We've used graphic designers as examples of heavy users before, and regularly downloading 1TB a month makes you one of the heaviest users that we've heard from!
Cable.co.uk
25th January 2013
Hi HowardTheDuck,

How are things going with your Virgin Media package? Has your service improved any since we were last in touch?
thomas
15th February 2013
as a user of virgin cable service i have never come across this 200gb limit i personally have upload 8TB + and downloaded 2TB plus with no issue other than normal traffic management at the peak times
Baz
16th February 2013
I just want to know which is worth their value for money, BtT or Sky, can't get virgin where I am going, looking at the top fibre optic packages there seems to be a lot in BT's favour but just don't know what they are like as an ISP. New home owner so just trying to find that best value for money!
kev
17th February 2013
to baz, Hope you read this message in time other wise bt will trap you in an 18 month contract as the vast majority of bt customers are unaware of bt bandwidth management throttling. They strangle there network in peak times to download speeds of 100 kbs which is literally unusable for example downloading a 2 hour film would take roughly 6 days and off peak times would take 6 minutes, this is because i am a custermer of 80 meg unlimited super slow pack. There are no charts to make custermers aware of this and they will not tell you honestly I cant wait for my contract to end. 3 mb download speed at maxium performance from 80 meg pack is disgusting. My self and 2 other family members are considering taken legal action as they also are on the 80 mg pack. they will just give you 1 excuse after another the fact is copper cable does not mix with fibre optic conection the so called last mile from cabinet to your home.its a multi million pound scam.
chris
19th February 2013
I am on virgin and have a DL of 105mb and an upload of 12MB ping 0 jitter 3 grade A line no problem here :) (PS i run a game server 24/7 with 40 players and never have a problem at all)
kev
20th February 2013
thanks for reply chris the problem i have is virgin is not active in this area, if i was with virgin there 30 mg pack squares upto my 80 mg pack ive learned an expensive lesson
chris
21st February 2013
Yes you are not the only one i have a friend with the same problem :( he plays on the game server i run and laggs a lot he is on BT. Other people all over the world like holland are perfect try to work that one out....?
DM
25th February 2013
I can confirm that 200GB is total rubbish, what they probably ment was the average usage

I have downloaded so far 2.76TB in the past 30 days. and uploaded 642GB.

So it's unlimited :)
don_vito
3rd March 2013
Im not sure whether this article needs to be updated or is it just some kind of mistake?
BT does not offer 160mb in fibre optic broadband, if it would, then Virgin would not be the fastes one in UK (they claim they are due to having 100mb offer on the table).
Second of all, BT claims that they DO NOT USE traffic management therefore your speeds will remain the same throughout the whole day and night, no matter how much data you download.
Anyone able to explain any of that??
don_vito
3rd March 2013
ooops my apologies, I just found the 160mb package and will certainly look into that immediately!
kev
4th March 2013
as a bt fibre optic customer I can assure youthat bt throttle the bandwidth to the point where you cant download. this is a fact. they will tell you all sorts of rubbish. if you complain they try to kid you by increasing your bandwidth so you can download at 1mb for 24 hours only, just to fab you off!!then you'll be back to the standard bandwidth management that bt instate.after having 7 engineers to my property and over 100 phone calls to bt tech support i know what im on about, not every one is stupid like theyd like to think
kev
4th March 2013
p.s if you do purchase this ultra slow product it has no power. so BUYER BEWARE.
Andy
8th March 2013
Very interesting coments and big thanks to everyone for sharing. I am thinking of switching to BT from VM because of the price increase and poor evening performance. Had an online chat with a BT representative and he assured me there are no longer traffic management or caps or their network which makes it a very attractive packadge. Reading through recent coments, it would appear that is either not the case or it only applies to recent contracts?? Anyone could offer a bit of clarity over the new promise from BT?
bob
13th March 2013
Having just entered a contract with bt infinity and still with virgin i will, when setup test to see which is fastest by performing tests over 24 hr periods with speed test and ping test with both 60 meg setups values (one being estimated so far for bt at 63 down and 20up).
Using a new gigabyte z77x dh4 with no adjustments made via network controller etc.I am thinking bt comes out on top purely down to contention rates i hope......lol........test date will be 11th will post back results for people here...........bob
bob
13th March 2013
Also will be speaking to Ofcom about capping issues etc and will post conditions from both company's.......also will be running bf3 fav server list for some ping comparisons.....bob
bob
13th March 2013
also will contact Scan to check provider details of servers if anyone else is intrested check back here early tomorrow
bob
13th March 2013
To Cable.co.uk , need help with getting a gaming service being provided by the IP Providers e.g Virgin Gamer Package or BT Gamer etc.....can you start a thread for this, for people to say yay or Nay to this kind of service being offered to cable customers etc, and to gauge its popularity......cheers bob
bob
13th March 2013
Also the Virgin Super Hub is Dual Band N+N( 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz channel router switch capable) for people with 2.4Ghz.. Channel interference recommended use only.
Serkan
13th March 2013
I am in the processing of installing the premiere collection package through virgin media which offers a 60mb broadband, I am trying to save money and this package seems reasonable with the cable tv, there are three people in the house using Internet is this sufficient for fast Internet and downloads for all of us? Serkan
bob
14th March 2013
Scan use external provider for server use,Also BT Infinity clause 26.

Changing your BT service

Changes we may make

Occasionally, we may have to interrupt the service. If we do so, we will restore it as quickly as we can. We may also make minor changes to certain technical specifications, including limits for transferring information which are associated with the service. We may also change usage allowances.
bob
14th March 2013
Here's Virgins which is a lot clearer

How does traffic management affect me?
We don't like traffic jams

At Virgin Media, we want all our customers to get the best possible broadband service. That means speedy downloads for all customers - not just a few. This helps to ensure sure that the service doesn't get blocked up with people using more than their fair share - which means less traffic jams.

File sharing

At peak times we also slow down the speed of file sharing traffic – that's services like Limewire, Gnutella, BitTorrent and Newsgroup (Usenet) traffic. You will, of course, still be able to use these services, but downloads and uploads will take longer during these peak periods. See our full traffic management policy here.
bob
14th March 2013
Also under the fair usage policy Virgin come out Clearer again.......

About the Virgin Media acceptable use policy

Legal, honest, decent, truthful

That's how we hope you'll use our services. Read on to find out more below.

What is an Acceptable Use Policy?
It lets you know how to use our internet service safely and legally. All internet service providers have usage policies of some kind. Here's where you can read more about ours.

Our Acceptable Use Policy covers a range of prohibited activities, but it mainly focuses on the most severe misuse of our services. That's activities that are:

Illegal
Unlawful
Or inconveniencing other internet users.

To put it simply, it's there to protect our customers and make sure everyone gets the best broadband experience possible.

Our Acceptable Use Policy is all part of our terms and conditions which you accept when you join.

What is the difference between the Acceptable Use Policy and the Traffic Management Policy?
Our Traffic Management Policy is used every day to make sure our service is fair for everybody. We sometimes moderate the speeds for the top 5% of customers who are downloading and/or uploading an unusually large amount. We do this to try to make sure that the service doesn't get blocked up with people using more than their fair share - which means a lot fewer traffic jams.

Our Acceptable Use Policy is all about the misuse of our internet service, where customers' broadband connections are being used for activities that are prohibited by law, or by our Terms and Conditions. If we notice any misuse of the service, we'll contact the customer directly and work with them to resolve the issue.

When is it used?
We'll only use our Acceptable Use Policy in severe cases of misuse, where a customer's connection is being used for purposes that are illegal, unlawful or inconveniencing other Internet users.
bob
14th March 2013
Ofcom must never look at terms and conditions as will be telling BT to sort section 26 right out.......scandalous vague loose 'From time to time'.
bob
14th March 2013
Hmmmmmm........no fair usage policy......i remember Virgin before this policy was brought in......permanent switched on router, first come first served principal or I'm on a faster package so i come first.........cos i pay more and/or i live right next to the box so there..... scenario exists.......depending on contention ratios Virgin is pretty saturated(in my area)but BT's maybe not???.........choice is yours.......Game On.....AND Demand A Specific Gamer Package From Your ISP !!!!
bob
15th March 2013
To SERKAN......60meg should be no problem.......unless you want to game and compete to win if thats the case best to kick everyone off as bill payer....lol......
I'm surfing web on phone, net book while lad plays W.O.W....no complaints from him.
I pay £53.90 for XL TV with TIVO 500gb and Extra HD Standard SET TOP BOX, XL phone and 60meg. INTERNET.
Chirag
24th March 2013
Hi All,

I am planning to switch from BT package (phone, broadband and TV) to VirginMedia.

I love BT's infinity broadband as have hardly have had issues over the past 2 years (apart from the useless homehub router having pathetic wireless connectivity, which i replaced with my own wireless router and then the connection was solid).

However BT's Vision TV package is nothing more than Freeview+View on demand.
So making a switch to Virgin media 60Mb broadband (fiber) with the other standard package of phone and tv.

I think I have the the switchbox opposite the road, few feet away from home and I live around 400m away from the exchange.
I am bit concerned about the speed I may get as there are lots of bad experiences of virginmedia customers (re speed and wireless connection) and also I do not see particularly good speeds for VM on the speed check websites.
I am not a gamer and not a heavy usage user (usually not exceeding 40GB/month), but do work from home quite often so having a stable high speed is quite important.

Does anyone have any comments on Virgins broadband speed and its reliability?

Thanks,
Chirag
chris
25th March 2013
im runnning virgins 100MB and my game server is on 24/7 it has been on this line for 2 years now and not had a problem at all
Les
25th March 2013
Chaps, I live in London W5 and I am with Virgin. I'm with them for good 5 years and was always happy but recently (about November 2012) service went south.
I can tell you they suck big time. It's 23:27 so basically off-peak and services like iPlayer or 4oD are virtually unusable. Quick ping -n 50 to bbc.co.uk gives me 8% lost packets, average time is 161ms with max 515ms. So VoIP is off-limits as well.

Basically, if you want to joint Virgin in this area don't bother.
freeworld
25th March 2013
Chirag from my personal experience with VM all advise you do not sign up with them their broadband is appallingly bad, highs pings tremendous jitter etc my speed drops from 100mb to 3mb be twin 5pm and 1am ,sat and Sunday from 11am till 2am same thing you won get stable conx as for tv am happy with what I got phone wise well part od the bundle becomes cheaper.
think about it don't rush like most people as soon they see a virgin media misleading advert bla bla bla they go and sign up and then they are left with 18 month contract that they cant get out of it unless you pay a woping £185 early disconnection fee.
chris
26th March 2013
i have no problem with VM been with them for 5/6 years if i ping from my server i can get 0 ping into xilo 2% jitter 0 packet loss all i can say is it must be your pc or the line in your house i only have 1 meter of cable to my router the rest is rj45 1 GB lan
Gareth
28th March 2013
I'm a service engineer for Virgin and will be shorty moving to a cabled area so i can finally get on the network (live in a non-cabled area at the moment). I'm on Infinity unlimited at the moment but the prospect of switching to Virgin deeply concerns me due to our TM policy.

On our 60mb service, only having a limit of 5Gb D/L between 5pm-10pm as absolutely pathetic. I could use that in an hour (I have a wife and 2 daughters that are internet freaks). Granted you only get a reduction of 40% so would take speeds down to 36mb(ish) but even so. What's the point in offering 60mb and hammering people when they're going to use it most. BT is completely unlimited (for my package) which for me wipes the floor with what we offer.

Considering i'll get it at staff rate's i can't complain too much, however if i were a normal full-paying customer, i'd be livid at that policy and would seriously consider not switching and remaining on BT.

We might claim that we're the fastest but in order to play with the big boy's it's not all about speed at certain times (anyone could do that), we need to have a truly unlimited service. I know the reasons why we don't and will not get drawn into detail but just another why of getting one over on customers by not shrouding a product in unrealistic T&C's
Peter
31st March 2013
I've been a VM customer for a number of years and was recently moved to its new Superhub. However, the parental controls are rubbish in this day and age where kids are logging on with iPods, iPads etc. WIth the old system I had blocks on through OpenDNS but this doesn't work with the new Superhub. Customer services had no solution - a huge step backwards in a day when the government is trying to limit access to certain sites. VM is not helping.
bob
5th April 2013
Ive had alot of trouble in 2 different address's one 9 month and one 6 months to fix......all good at present.....suggest using a speedtest to check connection.
Matthew
17th April 2013
I'm looking at VM in Feb 2014 @ 60mb, basically due to my current contract(s) expiring then.

I have 2x 3network broadband (15gb usage each) through their mobile usb broadband products, which for the most part is fine. Pay just over £30 for 30gb usage (major downside is that 1 pc is a gaming machine and 15gb is used if I buy a digital copy of a game VIA steam/origin)

I don't want or need the Phoneline or Tv, so looking for just the stand alone router (broadband only)

What I don't want is to switch to VM 60mb to find that the increase in speed is not justified....
It'll only be myself and my partner using the web, which one pc will be gaming, and the other for things like 4oD/YouTube and downloading.... and worried that the ping on the gaming pc would suffer.

VM is the way I'm looking as im unaware if BTi provide a router/wireless only package.

any insight?
Gareth
17th April 2013
@ Matthew - You do need a landline to have BT internet, or any other internet provider for that matter. The only mainstream provider that doesn't require you to have a landline is Virgin. You can get a fibre internet connection with other providers but the cost is significantly more than what Virgin charge...
Aman
19th April 2013
I have recently signed up for Virgin 60meg and phone service however I am reading mixed reviews about Virgin. I cannot comment much on the BT infinity however back when I had broadband with BT their service was terrible. Since then I have been with O2 20meg for more than 5 years now and there hasn't been a single day when their service let me down. However they are now being sold off to Sky which I don't like one bit as my experience with Sky is terrible. So I am in a confusion now should I go for virgin or not and if I do then I have calculated after all discounts I will be paying £22 a month for 60 meg a and virgin line whereas I currently pay £19 in total for O2 and BT landline.
Richard
24 days ago
VM were fantastic when I first signed up, but the last 4 months have been awful.I have a 100mbs upload package which is only 100mb when I'm at work. Weekend evenings it goes below 2mbs sometimes, so struggles to stream and I've now learnt to plan ahead to download films, but as most film downloads are more expensive than ordering DVDs, if I'm having to download in advance of weekends then I may as well order them through the post as this is essentially quicker than downloading. According to technicians who have visited on a regular basis, they are now quite honest and just say that Virgin has oversold it's product and so can't keep up with demand. BT have been crap in the past, SKY are crooks, everyone else leases off BT, so ultimately there is no choice.
Jed
5 days ago
Just came across this; like others I have had Virgins 100MB service for 18 months. First 3-6 months were great, I got 100MB and it never slowed down (that's with four very heavy users in the house).

But for the last 6 months it has been cr@p: 50MB average peak per day, absolute max 75MB (wired). Technicians has to reprovision my line.... but I now understand issue is contention with new users... but worse still they throttle me down to 5MB when I upload (BACKUP) to Justcloud.com , which is not P2P but legitimate backups. I think also since they allowed SKY HD boxes to connect via any ISP, thinks have got worse... we use catchup/on demand a fair bit.

Needless to say the whole household goes nuts as they slow down to unusable.

So I bit the bullet an have signed up for Infinity 3 @160MB and save £11 per month and get double the upload speed (20MB). Installation on 30th with FTTH, at last! And 330MB is out in July :D )
DanielM
3 days ago
Justcloud is notorius for slow speeds they also throttle them. and servers are in us.

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